Volkov?

CabalCore · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 23 Oct 2013

Is there a way to add Volkov as the Soviet hero unit in the game?

Nolt · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:15 am Post subject:

Uhm, yeah, as long as you have the shp file, which should be on the ra1 mixes? idk. Your question is so open that I can't give you many details, so here it goes. you migh want to get notepad++ for this.

Go to the ORA game folder -> mods -> ra -> rules -> infantry.yaml and clone the code of a rifleman and change it's header name to the shp you want to use. Assuming that the file is in the red alert mixes, you need only to change the unit header to the name of the shp file, in case it were a custom shp, place the file on the "bits" folder of the mod. You can use the asset browser (an ingame tool) to search for the name of the file. once you got it, write it in caps on the header. After that you need to make a sequence for it, that code is in: Openra game folder -> mods -> ra -> sequence -> infantry.yaml.

For the sequence, you might want to clone the riflemen's code aswell to have a template, rename the header again to match the code name on the rules yaml and then start editing the data of said sequence to match your unit. If you did all that correctly, the unit should work graphically ingame and you can tinker it's stats afterwards, good luck. I'll probably be able to answer any doubts if you have.

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MustaphaTR · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:01 am Post subject:

Volkov's shp file is called gnrl. Sequence is already included in openra.

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:06 am Post subject:

The sequence is, but since it was unbuildable in the original game, it doesn't have a cameo and still requires custom rules. (There is a cameo floating on the interwebs based on A Path Beyond's though.)

So yeah, use the GNRL unit as a start.

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MustaphaTR · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:10 am Post subject:

You can take a look to my map there is a volkov in it but more like tech unit rather than soviet hero. You can just change prerequisite.

http://resource.openra.net/maps/8710/

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:11 am Post subject:

Yeah, that's the problematic APB cameo.

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CabalCore · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 23 Oct 2013

Sorry for the late reply. Is there a way to get a good Volkov cameo?

MustaphaTR · Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:20 am Post subject:

RA2 Box art is used as a volkov cameo in most places. Also lefthand made one iirc but not sure.

Edit: Here is the lefthand's one: http://www.ppmforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=30277&postorder=asc&start=104

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CabalCore · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 23 Oct 2013

I was kinda thinking of using the Volkov cameo from DTA because it fits better with the game rather than the RA2 one.

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DTA is using this for the cameo.

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CabalCore · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 23 Oct 2013

Used it, but the cameo is all messed up. Does this mean I have the wrong palette?

Which one does OpenRa use?

Nolt · Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:44 pm Post subject:

Uhm, try using temperat.pal, the yamls tell me they use that palette for the chrome pal (and chrome is the ingame name for the cameo palette), if you're not sure about it, go to rules -> palette and search for chrome.

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Graion Dilach · Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:38 pm Post subject:

By default OpenRA uses the palette entry named "cameo" in palettes.yaml. You can override that via specifying Buildable: IconPalette on a per-actor basis (coded by yours truly due to his overreliance in Ares PCX cameos back in the day)

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CabalCore · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 23 Oct 2013

So how do I get the palette to show up correctly ingame when I'm training the unit?

I'm not familiar with modding Openra.

CabalCore · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 23 Oct 2013

Sorry for the double post. I have Volkov implemented, now all I need to do is fix the icon colors ingame.

Can someone explain how it is to be done?

Nolt · Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:07 pm Post subject:

1) Check what palette the mod uses. Rules -> palette.yaml -> Chrome
2) Create a cameo with that palette.
3) Add that cameo into the bits folder and set the unit to use it in its sequence.

or

1) Create a cameo using a custom palette.
2) add the cameo file and palette into the bits folder.
3) set up the new palette in palette.yaml, that means to copy this code but use a different instance, like @volkov instead of @chrome

Spoiler (click here to read it):

Code:

PaletteFromFile@chrome:
   Name: chrome
   Filename: cameo.pal
   AllowModifiers: false

4) Set up the actor rules to have it use the palette, that means adding the name of your palette in Buildable: -> IconPalette:

Spoiler (click here to read it):

Code:

SCRDRONE:
Inherits: ^Defense
Inherits@1: ^ScrinSelfHeal
Inherits@2: ^ScrinRender
Inherits@3: ^TowerStealthDetection
Valued:
   Cost: 900
Tooltip:
   Name: Drone Hive
   Description: Advanced base defense.\nRequires power to operate.\n Strong vs Ground units\n Weak vs Aircraft
Buildable:
   Queue: Defense
   BuildPaletteOrder: 90
   Prerequisites: scrtech, ~structures.scr
   IconPalette: chromescrin

Take a look at this page for more details.

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CabalCore · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 23 Oct 2013

The icon for Volkov that I want shows correctly in the asset browser when I put the setting on Terrain but using the other settings it's all messed up and inverted.

I have the Volkov cameo I want and it's from DTA. Looking at your first option. Is there a way to turn the cameo into the Chrome palette, like conversion or something?

Nolt · Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:28 am Post subject:

Yeh, the shp editor can handle that, file -> export, save it as an image, then re import it and choose the right palette.

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CabalCore · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 23 Oct 2013

I've heard of the SHP Editor. So basically I use an SHP Editor, change the palette of the icon to Chrome and it will work with OpenRA?

Which SHP Editor do I use that is compatible with OpenRA?

EDIT: Sorry if I'm being a bother. I have a difficult time with these things.

Nolt, if I upload the Icon itself, would you be able to convert it for me so that I can use it in OpenRA?

As a request I mean.

Graion Dilach · Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:45 am Post subject:

1) Go through DTA files and find cameo.pal.
2) Copy this cameo.pal into a new folder.
3) Rename it to say dtacameo.pal
4) Move this file to your mod's folder.
5) Open your mod's rules/palettes.yaml
6) Create the following entry:

Code:

PaletteFromFile@dtacameo:
   Name: dtacameo
   Filename: dtacameo.pal
   AllowModifiers: false

7) Go to your Volkov unit and expand the existing Buildable trait with the below:

Code:

Buildable:
IconPalette: dtacameo

???
9) PROFIT!!!!
10) Get a brain.

On a second thought if it works with terrain, then you only need step 5 and 7 but place the terrain's palette name inplace of dtacameo - which you should look up during step 5.

Seriously what is hard to understand on a tag which is named IconPalette?!

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CabalCore · Cyborg Soldier **Joined**: 23 Oct 2013

Yeah, the IconPalette trait I understand. Thanks for your help Very Happy

My bad for being annoying but truth be told I had no idea wtf I was doing. Now I have it working. Smile

THANKS!