Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:01 am Post subject:
Grassy Knoll Redux (2-4)
Grassy Knoll was one of my favourite maps in the original Tiberian Sun. After seeing this thread http://www.ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31426
I decided to improve upon the previous attempt by Scorched Earth to adapt this map into Twisted Insurrection.
This is my first attempt to make a map, but I like how it turned out. I kept it pretty simple, didn't use triggers or anything like that. I might change that later though.
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Forest outside the city.
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Countryside. I was going for more pristine feel, something that was not yet touched by war and infestation.
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Little town was completely changed and expanded compared to the original.
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Oil pumps in place of Tiberium fields. There are a few of these little oil villages scattered around the map. They become crucial during longer games.
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Wasn't sure how to make a preview that you guys have for official maps, but hopefully this minimap will suffice.
From the screenshots it looks quite good, reminds me of JamesBond's TS map remakes. Too bad you didn't seem to use any invisible light posts to, for example, make the forest darker that its surroundings and give the river a nice glow. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Location: Dordrecht, the Netherlands
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:33 am Post subject:
The Tib fields look rather square-ish, and I'm missing most of the scattered Tib fields (both green and blue) and the VHM. I also seem to miss the 'grassy knol' (with sniper/commando) the whole map is named after QUICK_EDIT
I used this map often for my ai tests because its unshrouded. nice map to play on. its very low on tiberium amount and the south east player I think should reall get another access to his island. AI there blocks the bridge often or it gets blown up. Totally imba as well. _________________ Free Tibed!
EA for worst company of the decade! QUICK_EDIT
From the screenshots it looks quite good, reminds me of JamesBond's TS map remakes. Too bad you didn't seem to use any invisible light posts to, for example, make the forest darker that its surroundings and give the river a nice glow.
Are the dark lighposts ones called "negative ____ lighposts" in the editor? I don't remember them being in the original, so I didn't use them. I might add them in, if they do what you say they do.
Dutchygamer wrote:
The Tib fields look rather square-ish, and I'm missing most of the scattered Tib fields (both green and blue) and the VHM. I also seem to miss the 'grassy knol' (with sniper/commando) the whole map is named after #Tongue
The idea of this map was to make it look less infested than the original. To compensate for lack of Tiberium, I added the oil pumps. I playtested it a few times, and it seemed that unless you keep the game going for very long time, you shouldn't run out of money. As for the Tiberium fields being squarish, I actually didn't change their shape of them from the original. Also, what is VHM?
Crimsonum wrote:
Trivia: I'm sure most of you know this, but the whole map was one big reference to JFK's assassination.
Oh wow, now I feel silly. I actually didn't know this until you pointed it out just now. It makes sense now that you say it, but in all my time playing this map, I just never made the connection. I'll probably come back and edit in some triggers to reflect this though.
OrangeNero wrote:
I used this map often for my ai tests because its unshrouded. nice map to play on. its very low on tiberium amount and the south east player I think should reall get another access to his island. AI there blocks the bridge often or it gets blown up. Totally imba as well.
I noticed that too. The AI doesn't seem to repair bridges, and it is pretty easy to box them in if you blow up the one bridge that they have. Problem is, if you fix the bridge going west, then they are at the disadvantage because the southwestern player can reach them very easily. I'm not really sure how to fix it, short of making one of the passages to the island a cliff opposed to a bridge. I might play around with this when I have the time. QUICK_EDIT
Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Location: Dordrecht, the Netherlands
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:52 pm Post subject:
Sharpshooter wrote:
Also, what is VHM?
VeinHole Monster. The map had one on the left side of the map, next to the hill with the armoury (and a blue tib field). In time it would destroy the armoury, but it would never threaten the top player's base.
Also, why I mention that you lack many Tib fields is that the current state promotes turtling, as each player has its own Tib field, with no other (more valuable) to contest for. The oil derrick may be some kind of alternative, but unless a fix comes so that they work like in RA2, they aren't worth the effort of battle (as you sell them right away to get the boost). QUICK_EDIT
VeinHole Monster. The map had one on the left side of the map, next to the hill with the armoury (and a blue tib field). In time it would destroy the armoury, but it would never threaten the top player's base.
Also, why I mention that you lack many Tib fields is that the current state promotes turtling, as each player has its own Tib field, with no other (more valuable) to contest for. The oil derrick may be some kind of alternative, but unless a fix comes so that they work like in RA2, they aren't worth the effort of battle (as you sell them right away to get the boost).
I removed the Vein Hole Monster since it didn't seem to fit with the atmosphere that I was going for. I also think it was a bit unbalanced since it was only present on one part of the map, and not the other, which would put the two players on the west side of the map at a disadvantage when attacking one another.
I always thought that this map was made for turtling, with all the players surrounded by some kind of natural barriers. And yes, I agree with you about the oil pumps, they would be much more useful if they generated money over time. That would also make the game more dynamic, I think. QUICK_EDIT
Are the dark lighposts ones called "negative ____ lighposts" in the editor? I don't remember them being in the original, so I didn't use them. I might add them in, if they do what you say they do.
Yes, something like that. They're in the Light Posts section with all the other invisible light posts. TS had two - a negative light post and a negative red light post (IIRC it reduced the amount of red light, hence making the area near it darker with a cyan tint). _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Really nice map but it doesn't play well when you have IonStorms enabled inthe menu.
The game begins to lag and then crashes.
I thinks its because of all the trees that are on fire.
Other thing is why was the map made as an .MPR format rather than a .MAP format ?
It would not show up in the list until I save it in the editor as a .MAP.
Would really like to see a bigger version of this but this map is really, really nice.
Thanks for the compliments!
I made this map a while back, before enabling ion storms was an option. It wasn't meant to have ion storms happening on it, and like you said, all the buildings/trees/etc. would cause the game to slow down if they all get simultaneously damaged.
I think the previous version supported that MPR format. At any rate, just change it to MAP and it should be good. QUICK_EDIT
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Grassy Knoll Redux (2-4)
