Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject:
First Test
Subject description: Yes!
Okies, the first test has been.
In it, I tested out a T-34 to Sherman battle.
5 Shermans on 3 T-34s, 1 T-34 being elite, 1 vet.
The battle ended with all 5 Shermans being lost, but every T-34 was destroyed as well. _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject:
Yep.
The battle was set up with waypoints.
I set it up that 3 T-34s, 1 elite, 1 vet, 1 normal, were placed some distance the 5 Shermans.
Ordering the Shermans to target the elite T-34, then Vet then normal, the battle played out like this:
T-34s got in range, firing their 85mm cannons. Lead Sherman is hit, and is down to a little less than half strength and then they hit it once more. My Shermans get in range, and hit the T-34 about 7 times. The elite one is gone. However, one of the missed, and the shell hit inbetween two of the Shermans, destroying both of them.
My 2 remaining Shermans took out the veteran, who had already suffered quite a beating, but in the process killed one of the Shermans.
The remaining T-34(the normal one) was then engaged at half strength by the last Sherman. The Sherman got off the first shot, and then the T-34 fired. Both were destroyed..
So the ratio is 3 T-34s for 5 Shermans. However, after that battle, I think the Sherman could use a bit of a fire power improvement on the T-34's armor, and the T-34 should do slightly less than 50% damage(as to allow for 2 shots then 1 more to kill) _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject:
Hmm...Interesting quote lol.
Well, I checked up with military history teacher, and asked him if that is a accurate ratio in a battle between 5 Shermans(76mm) and 3 T-34s(85mm), and he says it is accurate.
He also says 2 or 3 shots to take out a Sherman would be pretty accurate for a simulation as well, and agrees about the T-34 taking 5 to 7 shots to kill with the Sherman Tank...
Heh heh heh... When the M-46/47/48 is coded, there will be something different. I will lead my Shermans into the enemy T-34s, lure them into a heavily wooded area, where I conceal 2 M-48 Pattons. Say ouch 3 times really fast. _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:42 pm Post subject:
Well, then what would be better than leading 2 M-48 Pattons into the sights of a single Centurion or even better, T-10? _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:37 am Post subject:
remember something no sherman was able to beat a tiger tank, however t34-85 where able to penetrate the armor of it. i think you should see that only 80 up mm gun where able to permanently stop a t34. just to make it better. thats why a patton was used because of its 90mm and new hull design shermans where cheap fast made and because they were "the tank of the side wich win the war" they were used in mayor designs but however had to suffer lots of looses just to see the true of the designs. also remember that a su 76 spg just being only a self propelled gun means its more bomb than bullet with explotion. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
Also Known As: evanb90 Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Location: o kawaii koto
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject:
Well, did you read the stats? My military history teacher(who knows this type of stuff) and my stats match up pretty well.
I lowered the T-34s effectiveness to 3 shots for a Sherman
I increased the Shermans effectiveness to a average 6 shots.
The ratio seems right (3 T-34s to 5 Shermans) and the second test makes sense as (17 Shermans to 11 T-34s)
Remember, accuracy is not 100% _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:51 am Post subject:
sorry yes i always forgot that in games you always hit the target! im sorry. i just recently been testing some ideas for general tank hit issues. like when the tank receives a bullet and it doesnt blow up but has it treads destroyed and cant move. something like that im looking for some thing like that but still no results. i only found that you can slow the speed even to a minimum and the unit may not move or move too slow. _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject:
But, the thing is that debris spawn would look freaky.
And Tovarich, Shermans destroyed Tiger Tanks and Panthers, we just needed about 5 or 6 Shermans to do so.
The Sherman Firefly, now that could do some hurting. _________________ YR modder/artist, DOOM mapper, aka evanb90
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 3:47 pm Post subject:
ok ok! jojojo but what about that freaky debris looks nice to add some tread parts. ill be mixing code and see what happens im still wanmting the tanks to stop to no speed _________________ QUICK_EDIT
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First Test
